40 thoughts on “The Hero's (gender) Journey

    1. Sorry you didn’t like the way I decided to make my post. Must have been strongly distasteful in order for you to take the time to derail my thread to tell me how I “should have” formatted it.
      Now, back to any relevant comments.

  1. Awesome! The part about “if he thought they were women, he wouldn’t give a shit about them” BINGO

      1. I wonder if MTTs routinely get told “Make me a sandwich” on Twitter or Facebook. If not, how is it men know who’s supposed to be a sandwich maker?

      2. After a recent lefty event, got preached to by a 20-something white man about how “some women have penises!” and we should all understand that blahblahblah… to make it worse, he was mansplaining this as if none of us had ever heard this before or had a clue about trans-anything. I came out swinging and so did another woman (whom I would have considered a nicely-behaved liberal) who had been taken to task online for knitting pussy hats. She was furious! lol
        And so I asked him when he was sleeping with trans women and offered to get him a date with one. I told him he *would* suck and swallow–or offend the trans woman. Also he would of course post photos of the date on FB so his friends, family, parents and lefty-comrades could see what he was doing; do not be ashamed of the trans woman date.
        I also said if its a “woman’s penis” (which is what he was saying), if he is a hetero man, he should WANT to suck it.
        You probably know the look on his face.
        Luckily, I have Zinnia Jones’ tweets as backup–about how it is “inappropriate” for hetero men to dismiss transwomen as partners. If I hadn’t–he might not have believed me. When he tried to say Zinnia was probably fringe, I offered the info that this person was chosen to represent the trans community on “I am Jazz”–and had tweets about that too.
        He just stared.
        Last event we were at? He didn’t make a peep about the subject. The conversation stayed on Trump and his criminal-ring.
        PS: I think I have discovered something important. 😉

    1. Yes exactly, Daisy. I said something similar years ago online. These women, these liberal heterosexual women, such as many of the authors on Jezebel, and the now defunct Feministe and the like would never date and have sex with a trans-man (female). They want to champion the cause but leave the dating of these mental ill people to the “offies” (A.K.A. not the cool kids). Why don’t they put their money where there mouths are and drop the desire to date the Alpha-male-6-figure-hetero and date and co-habitat with one of these “men.” LOL!

  2. There have got to be SO many women who see this thread, this thought-crime, and have a flutter of internal panic because they know it’s true but so forbidden. Who would’ve thought that “penis=male” would become unspeakable & taboo? (Except for all the radical feminists who saw this coming and nobody listened to, of course)

  3. “Women don’t need to make the journey. In the whole mythological journey, the woman is there. All she has to do is realize that she’s the place that people are trying to get to.” – Joseph Campbell

    1. “All she has to do is realize that she’s the place that people are trying to get to.”
      In other words, it isn’t just that men are the only people who get to make the journey, they’re the only people–full stop. Women are merely undiscovered territory with neither initiative not inner lives who are supposed to sit around waiting to be the reward for some guy who makes it to the hundredth square of his Snakes and Ladders board.
      So TIM’s expect to be both the hero AND the reward.

    2. OMFG! There is just no upside to Joseph fucking Campbell. That old fashion Women Are Nature thing, I wonder if younger folk are exposed to that anymore now. If not that doesn’t mean it’s gone outta men’s heads. 😩😠 😒🌳

    3. Jordan Peterson basically says this too–not surprising since he is a Jungian like Campbell. He says women “know” what to do, and the task is getting them to “know they know”.
      Its why he is addressing all his “self-help” stuff mostly to men; he believes women don’t really need it.
      I think his talk of archetypes and the unconscious annoys the trans as much as his refusal to use fake pronouns… the concept that we react to people on an unconscious, mythological level (that we are largely unaware of) is very intense and probably drives the trans people crazy. This concept suggests that no matter how you present, people have a gut reaction to you that you can’t do anything about–it goes back to The Dawn of Time and all that Kubrick shit. If I believed the way they do–I would find these ideas terrifying; I think *that* is why they call him alt-right.
      You could never freely teach Jungian psychology today, in this totalitarian atmosphere, and that is one reason I think Peterson thought, fuck this, gonna die on this hill.
      I love the way he drives them crazy; I have rarely seen anything like it. (check out the UofT demos and the way he stays as calm as Bill Graham during the strip show-riot in “Apocalypse Now”… I halfway expected a trans strip show during the proceedings.)

      1. I grew up in a highly psychotherapized environment and ime it’s actually even worse to experience this shit as a girl and young woman. There is zero space or resources available to go be your fertile earthy naturally female self (barf). You better get good grades and play sports and get into a good school and prepare for a career and do all that “male” acheivement stuff but whenever you go look for support about your actual vagina issues you get this Campellian bilge. Do everything that a man is supposed to, but embody femininity for consumption, and do it with none of the supports of traditional society, not even what your mother had. And I picked this up immediately about Peterson – yeah sure women might know what to do but we can’t do it alone, you asshat.
        Ugh I am having teenage therapy flashbacks.

  4. “Woman, in the picture language of mythology, represents the totality of what can be known. The hero is the one who comes to know. As he progresses in the slow initiation which is life, the form of the goddess undergoes for him a series of transfigura- tions: she can never be greater than himself, though she can al- ways promise more than he is yet capable of comprehending. She lures, she guides, she bids him burst his fetters. And if he can match her import, the two, the knower and the known, will be released from every limitation. Woman is the guide to the sublime acme of sensuous adventure. By deficient eyes she is reduced to inferior states; by the evil eye of ignorance she is spellbound to banality and ugliness. But she is redeemed by the eyes of understanding. The hero who can take her as she is, without undue commotion but with the kindness and assurance she requires, is potentially the king, the incarnate god, of her created world.”
    -Joseph Campbell in A Hero With A Thousand Faces (p116)

    1. Reading this makes me so furious.
      Isn’t it so neat how in the end the man-god gets to rule over the women-goddess/her-land/they’re-the-same-thing.
      And a dozen other things! This is just a flurry of hate wrapped up in nice words and high ideals. I can hardly stand to breathe for the ridiculous amount of awful concepts bound together in this simple paragraph.
      He clearly believes what he’s saying, and that he’s great for saying it.
      Kudos to him for his economy and stunning powers of self-deception, I guess.

  5. lmao it is so true, right now I am keeping up on lily madigan and morgane oger on twitter, both are transwomen in politics, and both of them are encouraged to act in ways that would absolutely destroy the career of any female politician. Imagine elizabeth warren or kirsten gilibrand signing all their tweets with cutsie x’s, or taking princess themed selfies, or demanding the information of an anonymous sign holder for a human rights tribunal. Imagine male liberals going to bat for women, for real, outside of defending their “right” to sell sex to men. The internet conceals some of what is wrong because everyone can pick an avatar that shows them how they want to be seen, when people get together in real life and talk it is really hard to deny the dynamic that is going on.

    1. I’m following all that horror on Twitter too. There’s a woman who I twitter-knew involved in to Labour Party politics in the UK (I’m in Canada) and calling out anti-Semitism in the Labour Party. Which is a huge problem there. Anyway she never tweeted about anything trans until like a month ago. Now she’s all over it! And made one of the greatest comments.
      It was, paraphrased:
      I’ll believe you believe trans women are women when you suck their dick.
      She’s @leaningleft46

  6. A+ thread.
    The next to last tweet is spot on and perfectly describes nuts like Manning and Charles Clymer*.
    * Magdalen Berns picked apart his whiny, smug Channel 4 appearance and it’s golden:

    1. Berns is such an antidote, as always. Watching that dude, I kept expecting his eyes to move back and forth like he’s parroting The Trans Narrative ™ off a teleprompter.

    2. OMG the return of Clymer????
      There are people suggesting Harvey Weinstein might re-invent himself as trans too.
      I once would have laughed about that, not now.

  7. I think we have to thank the deluded penis is female people who got us all so pissed off with their flagrant sexism. Just like we have to thank the US Sexist in Chief for getting women more mobilized than in a generation or two. Women are rising every where. Now let’s not let the patriarchal state co-opt us again! Let us pray they don’t get us all nuked before we dissolve patriarchy into nothingness!!!

    1. Carolmoore– You are right, women are rising up yet again. Now the challenge is, the second wave feminists are not dead yet, and the folks inbetween are very much alive. Radical feminists have been writing about the trans stuff for 40 years now, so it is time to coordinate and actually go forward, rather than repeating the same mistakes again and again. So many young women have reported to me that they didn’t vote in the election or they never ever realized that Trump would win, or they just didn’t get how dangerous and male supremacist patriarchy really is, and how clever men are at undermining women for 6000 years. This needs to be acknowledged, that women come first, not men, not male to trans, not some other male agenda, but WOMEN. This is a very hard concept to get across to millions of women all over the world, because male dominance is so all pervasive and everywhere.

    2. CarolMoore, I’ve been dealing with this for over 40 years, and I’ve talked to women born in 1977 or 1985, for example, and they grew up in a time when men backed down a bit, they threw out some crumbs, the male left kept bull shitting young women, and the whole sex pozzie porn gang made billions. Now these very same women are being confronted with MASSIVE pushback and Trump, and a growing police state, and outright violent attacks on women gathering to even talk about gender critical stuff. There are loads of women complete deluded by male to trans bull shit, they are enthrauled with a cult, just as they were enthrauled by leftist men and their lies. So can women finally get it and learn from the radical feminists of the early 19th century, from the 1960s, from the women who founded the rape crisis centers, from the women who were always against the male to trans invasions of women’s space? Can women just for once center women and girls, and stop making excuse for their unicorn husbands and sons, can they choose to actually BELIEVE women who have been raped and sexually harassed by THEIR SONS? And you know what, after 40 years of listening to women, and seeing how they totally dissed lesbians and our culture, how they truly never gave a damn about all our hard work, I don’t really seeing hetero women doing what it takes on a MASSIVE scale to stand up to men and boys and to opening say WE SUPPORT we will fund, we will stand by our lesbian sisters–because that is what I’m asking of all het women now– lesbians are meerly the early warning system of male supremacy, we warn and warn and are treated like dirt for our efforts. We told you so!

      1. Hi, I am a hetero woman who has just been woken up to the sexism that I could not see before. I am encouraged by your post because I want to reach out and be with sisters. I don’t know where to start.

      2. Hello SP_Jo. This is a great site to start from. I landed here by following links from other sites. You might want to use this site as “central station” like I do and start clicking Gallus’s (and anyone else for that matter) links on any thing of interest to you. I should warn you that you might find it quite addicting…once you start, it’s hard to stop! 😊

      1. Wow. That was intense! This is an example of what I said after the trans mob attack on that lesbian-run vegan restaurant, which was the subject of a post here a few weeks ago. Trans activists always – ALWAYS – target progressives, usually progressive women, and LGBs. I have never seen a trans activist disrupt a speech by Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council or James Dobson of FamilyTalk or Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association. For that matter, no trans activist has every disrupted any celebrity accused of rape or sexual assault. But when rape survivor Rose McGowan has an appearance at Barnes and Noble, they are there to scream at her and to make demands of her. And if Deep Green Resistance has a table at some conference or if the Vancouver Women’s Library has an event, they appear with their profanity and intimidation tactics.

    1. I love how they always devolve into that screaming, signature man bark when a woman doesn’t play along. No male socialization there nope 🙄

  8. 1. PinkNews has picked up this story.
    2. I am dismayed to see some media outlets covering this as “McGowan has a meltdown.” She did not melt down. She responded directly and forcefully to an attack. When it was over, she got right back on track. That’s a very sexist spin on this incident.

  9. In the sport I work in, we’ve had a medium-profile man come out as gay, to massive fanfare and associated stunningandbravery.
    Our sport has a long and mostly unacknowledged history of lesbian participants. Someone gay is seriously not news.
    This guy also has a (presumably now ex) wife who flushed her own competition career down the toilet to support him and have his kids. We hear nothing about her.

  10. Off Topic:
    Another suspicious possibly fake “hate crime” against an FTM. Stinks to high heaven.
    “A transgender student at a South Bay community college was the victim of an assault late last month that is being investigated as a hate crime, according to police.
    The student, Deejea Smith, was attacked on Jan. 24 in the vicinity of the Flint Garage on the campus of De Anza College in Cupertino, police said. The suspect yelled an anti-gay slur at the student and punched the victim in the face before fleeing, they said.
    “I was unconscious,” Smith said. ” don’t know for how long, I just know that I was.”
    The attacker is described as a white male in his late 30s or early 40s, about 5 feet, 10 inches tall, about 200 pounds, with silver hair, police said. Police released a sketch of the suspect with the hope the public could help identify him.
    Asked if he had ever seen the attacker before, Smith said once.
    “Earlier that day, he had parked his car next to my car, and I had recognized him from there,” Smith said. “Outside of that, never before on campus.”
    Smith said he was also punched five days earlier in the same garage, but didn’t see who did it.”
    It was the second time in less than a week that he says someone attacked him at the same on-campus garage. He says the attacker ran off, and campus police later released this composite sketch of the suspect, described as White man in his late 30s or early 40s, with silver hair, 5’10” or 11 and about 200 lbs.
    “There’s always locations on campus and we’re aware that we need to have our officers patrol check the areas as often as possible to insure the safety of our students,” said Foothill-De Anza Community College District police chief Ronald Levine.
    The parking garage where the attack took place does not have security cameras. Some students say they’ve pressured the college to have such security equipment installed..”

    De Anza police continue search for man who attacked transgender student

    “The second he saw me, he screamed ‘faggot’ and just punched me straight in the face,” he said, “and I was knocked out cold.”
    Smith suffered a visible head injury, and when he reported the Jan. 24 attack he also reported a similar attack from the previous week where someone hit him from behind in the same garage.
    Foothill-De Anza police chief Ron Levine said his department has increased patrols around the parking garage in the wake of the attack.
    Smith told KGO-TV that the attack has left him wary and that he is dedicated to making the campus safe for LGBTQ students.”
    Previous similar fake hate crimes against transmen /or suspected:
    Colle Carpenter

    Colle Carpenter speaks out against hate crimes on campus

    Hercules Middle School

    Transgender Hercules High Student Reports Being Sexually Assaulted In Restroom

    Michael Volz

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