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116 thoughts on “Happy Pride!

    1. In my nephew’s wife’s Christmas letter, she told us all that their daughter had attended a pride parade in NYC. I don’t believe this young woman is a lesbian, and now I’m wondering if she was there to support trans. ?????

  1. From Chicago Dyke March 2016:
    I have no idea who this person is but DOOD! How many times do I have to tell you if you want to try to pass as female DON’T SHOW THE MAN BELLY. Your umbilicus (bellybutton) is a good four inches or so higher than a woman’s. As a man SO interested in women, that you “identify as” us, HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW THAT???
    This is how you can tell a transie is a heterosexual. No respectable drag queen alive would be caught baring his midriff. How embarrassing for you! Back to school, hetero fool!

    1. I have no idea yet how far down the drain things will go, outside of trotting out felons, traitors, pedos, traffickers to the world. As in to say, that these are people to lionize and honor.
      Something also says the kids who are being transed, will be on display. Which if this is the case, then a legitimate case can be made for jailing the lot of the ‘adults’ engaged in this shit.

      1. “..the kids who are being transed, will be on display..”
        Will be on display by whom? Not by the liberal media. And let’s face it, the right wing is- intentionally or not- doing more harm than good. Genderists can’t dismantle gender. “Master’s tools” and all. It is absurd to think that the left or right media will effectively cover ANYTHING related to jendur. Women MUST create our own media, there is no other option. And the best way to do that with no money and no support is by using iPhone livefeeds and doing citizen reporting.

      2. @GallusMag what I meant was at the ‘parades’ . As in the brigade doing this and if it shows in a 5 second clip on a local report, that may be the extent. One can hope…
        No one here is actually performing the right type of reporting on this as you said. Barring that the Beeb does a piece (which shows up here way too early in the morning). But no one will, lest they ‘offend’. Odd…if only due to the fact that truth in journalism, is not supposed to be light on details, but filled with sunlight (which ‘Frontline’ screwed up in their reportage on trans kids a while back).
        Not only do I agree that feminists need to go beyond blogging to expose the insanity in full, in addition, there is a need for a ‘Lee Atwater’ in the mix (the late GOP strategist). Someone who can push the message and facts to counter the brigade’s erasure tactics in full. The makings of that are here among the posters, who call out the BS…it just needs a spark for the fire.

  2. I look forward to when lesbians outfit themselves with iPhones on livestream and go to these events with bodyguards carrying “Get Your Dick Out Of Our Dyke March!” signs (or whatever). Livestream it. Let the whole world see. Film Film Film. Confront and film. Shine a light on these fuckers and let the whole world judge for themselves. Never do any action without a livefeed. The revolution WILL be televised.

    1. Blogs are great but the future is in the hands of women who can produce live video coverage of their actions at these sorts of events.

      1. Well you all definitely have an allied in me, and although I’m heterosexual, I am more appalled at a transwoMAN considering himself lesbian than I am at a transwoMAN wanting to be looked at as a female. I just needs some guidance, I’ve been spreading the word to all my female friends, family, and co-workers.

      2. And speaking of a lack of representation….our local NBC affiliate just aired a clip announcing that, pride weekend is this weekend in PDX. Guess what was shown? Yep….the brigade, as in those that can be read 200 miles offshore by the Truman.
        Maybe I am showing my age and maturity, but this looked more like honoring the creepy. Makes the case for an errand run and time with the feline partner, than be around the crazed and gender brownshirts.

  3. WOW I went to two dyke events in Los Angeles, and fortunately at the dyke march there were no creepy signs like that, we had about 300 some dykes marching, a great dj at the dance, and the one or two male to trans slunk around the edges but did not in anyway really interact with us. West Hollywood has a women’s visibility committee so there is strong lesbian activism that keeps the crap out. Then I went to something called Dyke Days, and they had a couple of creepy crawly female to trans covered with ugly tattoos promoting pot farming, most kept away from them as well.
    There were a few male to trans at that event, but they pretty much did not mess with us or carry obnoxious signs like that. So it was very good all around. The trans seem to pretty much steer clear of L.A. dykes, some are liberal sell outs, but even they shut up and stuck with LESBIAN being another word for DYKE.
    Maybe L.A. has hit peak trans in L.A. and the male to trans just don’t dare even go to our events.

  4. How much longer is this gonna continue until gays and lesbians finally say “enough is enough!”

  5. Right there on that bizarre and disturbing official twitter account of the Chicago Dyke March you can see the parasitic nature of “LGBT.” Right there we see the L passionately advocating against its own interests and in defense of the parasitic T. It’s just like watching a clueless mother Warbler bird defending with her life the eggs of the cuckoo, which were surreptitiously laid in her nest and which will destroy her eggs as soon as they hatch.
    Of course, LGB people aren’t birds and we have the ability to analyze what is happening to us. So the question is: Why are our organizations so vulnerable to this kind of takeover? What made LGB organizations – from HRC to the National Center for Lesbian Rights to the Lesbian Avengers to the Chicago Dyke March – such soft and easy targets for trans activists?

    1. I attribute it to the lack of international expertise among board members and paid activists running the orgs. Instead of shifting their resources to international support of lesbians and gays following the legalization of homosexuality and the success of gay marriage in the US, they are left trying to repeat an activism model for a new demographic. So not only have trans taken over the orgs but there is near zero organizational support for international human rights for lesbians and gays. Our sisters and brothers overseas have been abandoned by these orgs because they were unwilling to restructure.

      1. Everything you say about abandoning LGBs in other countries is true. However, “LGBT” conquered LGB organizations in the 1990s. That was before Lawrence v. Texas decriminalized homosexuality and before any US state recognized marriage or even civil unions. It was when AIDS mortality was at its apex and when the Christian Right was running ballot measures to wipe out all local gay rights laws in various states. It was a desperate time and our “leaders” should have been 1000% focused on protecting our interests.
        Instead, at the very worst time, they decided to transform themselves into servants of trans activism. It was in 1999 when they went so far as to actively oppose gay rights legislation – the very thing that they were created to get passed – if it did not include trans provisions. It’s like a complete failure of character and judgment. They were more than a soft target for a trans takeover. They were a willing target. At least the Warbler is tricked by the Cuckoo into caring for and defending the Cuckoo’s eggs. Our leaders didn’t need to be tricked; they were eager to betray their own interests and they pursue someone else’s cause.

    2. M O N E Y.
      Fame and fortune, status, etc. NCLR segregates also, by class, race, disability, age, etc. with their unaffordable events.
      Lesbians need to say no and stop supporting collaborators and saying anything anyone wants to do is fine.
      I organized a nature stroll last week and a woman wanting to pass as a man showed up and started complaining about how she is discriminated at her job because they won’t call her “he.” Meanwhile, another women whispered to me, asking what pronouns to use for her. I said, “I’m not a member of the trans cult. She’s a woman.” I explained in more detail, how this crap has destroyed our last spaces. And I always refer women here, to learn, though that this point, in this area, they have to know.

  6. On Tumblr I told the girls I went to Chicago’s first dyke march in 1997. In 2017 it’s like opposite day. I recommended that next year they have to go to planing sessions. This is the only way they can take their March back.

    1. I was at that one, too! This is just heartbreaking. I would love to see a TERF contingent, or a TERF march. I’m not in Chicago anymore, but I might fly in for it! But then, how long until they demand inclusion in that???

  7. If they love dick so much, why are they at Dyke Marches or any Pride event? Saying something like they are bisexual is one thing, but to carry a “We Love Dick” sign at a Dyke March or Pride event only has one purpose. It’s meant to intentionally insult lesbians and crap all over the Dyke March. Lesbians don’t like penis, so they carry their “We Love Dick” signs to insult and outrage lesbians. These lesbian hating people do this for the shock value.
    As to “plenty of lesbians like dick”, these women are bisexual. There is nothing wrong with being bisexual. Lesbians aren’t into penis.
    The sickest form of lesbian hatred and homophobia is males calling themselves “lesbian”. Sometimes straight men will joke that they are “lesbian”, but it’s seen as a joke and not taken seriously because people know on an intuitively level that males can’t be lesbian. The lesbian hating males who are colonizing the hell out of lesbians the most, and have no shame at all doing so are transgender. Indeed, trans seem to get a thrill from insulting and outraging lesbians. The more they outrage lesbians, the happier the queer/trans crowd are. It sickens me to no end when middle aged heterosexual males who “transition” in midlife after leaving the wife and four kids behind to pursue his desire to be a “woman” calls himself a “lesbian”. He is just a heterosexual dude in a dress. There is nothing wrong with being a straight man in a dress, but they sure as hell aren’t “lesbian”. They aren’t “women” either. No male will ever experience sexual pleasure the way a woman does, so how in the hell can a male know how any woman feels? It’s lesbian hatred on steroids. Lesbians do not have a penis. Lesbians love women emotionally and spiritually. Everything about lesbians is a celebration of human female sexuality. Redefining lesbian is the ultimate form of lesbian hating homophobia. It’s an ugly form of colonization whereby a more powerful group redefines a minority, but it gets a free pass when trans pull this misogynistic mind fu** upon the female sex. Lesbians have little power, and this is why they screw with lesbians.
    They might think they are edgy and cool, all nonbinary queer poly pansexual, or whatever. They aren’t unique at all. There is nothing special about these people. They are no different than the bored white heterosexual men who occasionally sneak into lesbian events, sitting in the corner, thinking to themselves that what these women really need is some dick. Lesbians to them really aren’t people, and they can’t be women because all women are supposed to love the dick. Homophobic lesbian hatred is nothing new. It has been around since forever.

  8. As a non-lesbian, I don’t think I love dick enough to ever put these words on a sign that I intended to carry around with me. I don’t get it. Even if one was brainwashed into thinking that transwomen were women, is it acceptable to admit that the vast majority of “women” who love “women” would still not have penises? So what is the point of this?
    I mean, other than the homophobia. But why?! It’s like the women that complain about the mean feminists who want them to stop wearing makeup. Hey: Women. No one is trying to take away your makeup or your love of penises. The patriarchy approves, so no one cares.
    I hate this generation, I swear.

  9. I’m heterosexual.
    But most importantly, I am a radical feminist.
    I fear for all of us women. But I especially fear for my lesbian sisters. All of this “lady dick” bullshit is frightening for all of us in a very aggressive way, but it’s obvious that lesbians are primary in the aggression. That’s how it looks to me.
    I can’t understand why all women won’t support you (and us, and themselves) in the face of this blatant sexism and misogyny. I can’t believe that they just don’t know, or have been sneakily taken in and lack understanding.
    But I support you. Always have and always will. Women first, always.

    1. I totally agree with you. Women are women. We should support each other, whether we are heterosexual or homosexual.

  10. Count me in as another non-lesbian, radical feminist who finds this alarming and depressing. Maybe they should organize a dick march somewhere and stop infesting events meant for lesbians. If feels as though anything women make, lesbian or no, men insist on taking for themselves.
    I find myself wondering how many bisexual women take part in dyke pride marches these days. The bi women in the circles I’ve drifted away from have been the most rabid defenders of transwomen I’ve met off line.
    To Gallus Mag and the other lesbian feminists who post comments here–I’ve developed enormous respect for your courage and intelligence and hope the movement can be rescued from the transtrenders, heteroqueers, and polyamourous asexuals who’ve colonized it.

  11. I’d say there is a heavy porn industry influence behind all this, and also these bisexual women love to hate on lesbians, have contempt for lesbians. They’ve been rejected sexually by lesbians often, for the most part, a lot of this aren’t interested in women who’ve been sexually colonized by men for long periods of time. Lesbians are 100% committed to women, and the ones carrying these signs just are provatours. Anytime lesbians stake out space –the early dyke marches the rest of the creepy crawly world undermines our spaces, just like perving men have always lurked around lesbian bars and het women bring their husbands into lesbian bars now, and brag and brag and brag about how wonderful their men are—- they just hate lesbians, that is most of the world.

  12. I don’t believe that sign. Seriously. I think those women were deliberately making a homophobic statement and hoping for reinforcement from their male audience. Women–lesbian, bi, or het–don’t heart dicks. Bi or het women may (or may not) like a penis attached to a man they like, but liking dicks in the abstract? That’s a male thing. What woman isn’t turned off by the obsession men–gay, bi, and straight–have with dicks? Who draws dick graffiti? Not women. Notice these women didn’t draw a dick on their sign. They may be capable of that, if they thought it would shock and disgust other women, but they wouldn’t think of it on their own. What a bunch of mindless tools.

  13. In our patriarchy, any woman who refuses to sexually obey a man, or perform femininity for a man, is called a dyke and a lesbian… I frequently joke that I was called that before I even knew what it was (seriously though, its true) and that heightened any natural curiosity I might have had about lesbians. (Who were these disrespectful scary wimminz that men seemed to FEAR and DREAD??? I must meet them, lol.) Way back in the beginning of the second wave, bisexual radical feminists called themselves lesbians and witches and any other word that seemed to scare men to death, just for the fun of it. 😉
    I think when married/bi women call themselves “dykes”–it is a testament to what Mary Daly called men’s “power of naming”: a man said I was a dyke so I am. These women do not stop to ask if the lesbians are the ones calling them dykes: they aren’t.
    In the 70s, there was a series of movies with men calling their wives (obvious bisexuals or they wouldn’t be married to men duh) “dykes”– particularly the popular comedy “Slap Shot” and the bio film about Lenny Bruce (who insisted on threesomes with spouse Honey Bruce and then beat her up when she appeared to enjoy them). This took the idea ‘mainstream’ that a dyke could be married to a man; a dyke is what a man says is a dyke.
    And porn culture completed the idea, so a whole generation of girls now believes this. When women/lesbians dare to define the term themselves, these young women are shocked and unbelieving. But, but…all these men say I am a dyke! The idea that men are saying this to heighten their own sexual arousal is unknown to them, as is autogynephilia. The 24/7 porn cycle has made them naive and stupid; they are basically training films/propaganda for patriarchy.
    In my observation, today’s young women desperately want to believe men are just like them, another reason they love the trans, which on some level seems to ‘prove’ this truism to them. Older women had/have no such illusion.

    1. That’s a really good point about trans handmaidens. At a point when men are more broken than ever, young women are desperate to believe men are good at heart.

      1. Also see a lot of young women who have naively bought this line of crap that men/M2Ts are not only good at heart but poor, oppressed (MOST oppressed) suffering souls who can be SAVED if the good women would only center these poor guys in everything.
        Yes, it makes my eyes roll out of my head but so many young women seen enraptured by this narrative.

  14. Dyke means lesbian, LESBIAN means women who love women in all ways. If you have sex with men or are attracted sexually to men you are not a dyke or a lesbian, it is very very simple actually.

  15. Another het ally here. This is bullshit. It’s not just international expertise but intergenerational expertise. Where are the old lesbians? Why are young lesbians not leaning in with them? What the hell is going on that there is such a clear war on women that the most hated class of women is lesbians?

  16. Medi says “I’d say there is a heavy porn industry influence behind all this”
    I don’t doubt it. The whole trans thing today is a porn pushed creation run amok, imo. Want an eye opening exp? Hit up:
    Reboot Nation
    and take a look at how many men are whining on any one of those sites “Am I trans? I can only get off on thinking myself a woman now!” because they have porn pickled their brains so much.
    There are search boxes on each site. Type in the standard fodder; shemale, sissy, transsexual, crossdress, and prepare to be disgusted.
    As for the current article above, “dyke” is not a term I have or will use. Maybe I’m old fashioned, but that’s a slur to me. I understand the term appropriation by lesbians to remove the power and negativity, but it remains a slur that I will never call my lesbian sisters.

  17. I’d say lesbians have always pretty much been under attack, and subjected to hatred, massive numbers of het women never gave much of a damn about us, and I no longer feel obligated to fight all the battles out there if I don’t get a direct and measurable benefit from that work. I figure when male to trans invade enough het women’s places and put enough of their daughters at severe risk, something will shift. In the meantime, I think some dyke marches work other are taken over by the trans, it’s mixed out there. But you should NEVER ever negotiate with male to trans, and refuse to ever call them women, just male to trans.

    1. I’m a het radical feminist and prioritise women over men. Sisterhood is very important to me. I’ve seen lots of posts here and on other blogs from others who feel the same. Please don’t feel het women are all indifferent to the inroads transactivists are making into lesbian culture and spaces. Some of us are awake.

      1. I’m awake. Have been for a long time. I feel rage for what is happening… I stand with my lesbian sisters. These people are fucking deranged.

  18. The insistence on the inclusion of dicks in the Dyke march, which was created to get away from the male antics of Pride parades, feels just like getting on the subway and find some disgusting man sitting there with his dick out masturbating or any flasher on the street. They want to expose themselves on unwilling participants and have greatly over-inflated ideas on the importance of their dicks. These creeps have built nothing and their whole politics are based on trashing the lesbians who built the platforms they stand on or attempting to appropriate spaces reserved for natal women. So what I see here is intrusive and gross exhibitionism combined with parasitism. Get a movement leeches.

  19. Love the tags Gallus. So accurate. This is nothing new and it doesn’t surprise. These types took over lesbian sites as well. Now they’re full of them.
    “Plenty of lesbians like dick” Huh?? If a woman is into men that makes her straight.
    “plenty of lesbians have dicks” Huh?? If you own that equipment you’re a guy.
    Lesbian = Homosexual woman.

    1. Which goes to show, if the door is opened for the brigade to glom onto the ‘pride’ movement [in lower case for this, due to how far it has strayed off the mark], then the more seedier elements will walk in. And reading the event list, almost caused me to lose dinner.
      Makes one wonder if the Mariners have a homestand at Safeco then. Baseball fans may be nuts, but they are not as far gone as those others.

  20. I went to pride in my hometown in California last weekend and made sure there was actual gay representation at gay pride.

  21. They are deliberately erasing Lesbians. Lesbians do not want to be fucked by men. Actually, most of the het women I know never say they “love dick” either. The debate for het feminists in the past was about how to have relationships with men without getting fucked.
    And this is not a generational divide. My young Radical Feminist friends share the same politics as I do, and our ages in our groups go from twenties to eighties.
    But this prick-worshipping crap is mainstream. I went to a “women’s” play Sunday that was by and about old (sixties and older) women/Lesbians. Then one of the women started going on about “loving dick.” I can watch television without paying if I want that crap.
    Meanwhile, this is the mindfuck posted about our upcoming SF Dyke March:
    “Calling All Dykes: Take Up Your Space​

    Dyke is not just a sexual orientation. It’s a political identity. It stands for community. It stands for solidarity. It stands for radical fight. It stands for trans*, black, brown, queer, bisexual, lesbian, disabled, chronically ill, fat, femme, butch, indigenous, gender expansive love. It does not stand by erasure. By displacement. By appropriation. By hate.
    The 25th San Francisco Dyke March is a call to action. We’re calling all dykes. Each and every one of you – to take up your space and hold it close to you as we hold on for our lives. As we hold on to each other
    Dyke March is the one day out of the year where ALL trans and cis self-identified dykes can proclaim space, rights, visibility and respect.”
    Note who comes first….
    Meanwhile, I can’t comment on facebook since I’ve been locked out for over 5 months and the stalker reports me as soon as I’ve returned. Anything I’ve written in the past 6 years is reported, though I’ve deleted most and transferred over 700 pages of Radical Lesbian Feminist comments.
    Far more effective than killing us is to define us out of existence, by giving our identity to our oppressors, while pretending to be against erasure and oppression.

    1. “I’ve been locked out for over 5 months and the stalker reports me as soon as I’ve returned.”
      If I was on Facebook I’m sure she would be doing the same to me. If WordPress hadn’t explicitly offered me legal representation against her this blog would no longer exist.

    2. Bev Jo: I went to a “women’s” play Sunday that was by and about old (sixties and older) women/Lesbians. Then one of the women started going on about “loving dick.”
      What?!?!?!?!? And you’re right, Bev Jo. I’m straight and I never go around saying I love dick. Perhaps I would if my partner was named Dick, but that’s the only case I can think of. If I wasn’t aware of the human world getting crazier and crazier, I would ask what in hell is going on that a supposed women’s play descends into patriarchal propaganda. I’m trying to imagine any woman my age or older saying I love dick and find it impossible to do so. But you never know these days with the pharmaceuticals people are taking.

      1. Women don’t talk like that. We don’t walk around saying “I love dick”.
        Women might say shit like that in plays, movies or on TV when males write the characters. I can always tell when a male has written a female character because they don’t act like women. They act like males THINK that we should be.
        If a woman is saying that, there’s a male in there somewhere, encouraging that kind of behavior.

  22. Oh Gallus Mag, that is wonderful that WordPress has defended you. What a loss for us all if you were gone. You really are our champion, needed more than ever.

  23. Yes I’m thinking we should cut ties with mainstream for profit lgbtxyz events that harass and erase us, and create smaller private groups and events.

    1. Yes, Keisha that is exactly what we are doing now, and it is so wonderful. I don’t support LGBT anything, I have gone to dyke public events, but they weren’t overrun by the trans, pretty solid. But all the wonderful things I’m doing are outside that LGBT-org system which has been a killer of lesbian energy and a money stealer out of lesbian pockets for a long time now. When you donate to LGBT centers that money goes into the big pot, and you can’t set aside money ever for lesbian only stuff. Lesbians around town are getting this, and it is happening more and more.

    1. Damn….PDX once again shows the overall lack of tolerance for others, thanks to the brigade. More of what some say ‘doesn’t happen’.
      As well as proving the point of the right, etc…that a sickening level of those who are t-centered are crude, egomaniacal, rude, intolerant and just plain mean-spirited beings. More evidence to drop the t…..before things get worse.

      1. I am trying to imagine someone here in South Carolina interrupting police during an active conflict, while they are questioning people and authoritatively bellowing orders like: “yall can fuck all the way off” (3:12) without getting forcibly sprawled, frisked, handcuffed and hauled in immediately.
        I can’t even imagine this in Atlanta, our local giant metropolis.
        Its like another country where the trans are in charge.

      1. Are they parents who mean “we’re sorry we thought you were gay but thank god youi’re trans.” Because from the many many pix, it looks like a trans parade, not a Pride parade.

    1. It looks like the cross frequently seen on Episcopalian churches (here in the US, anyway) with the circle behind the cross (here, they’ve colored it in rainbow style.) First-hand experience has shown me that Episcopalians are rebranding themselves as ultra-liberal, with the sort of blind hand-wringing liberal guilt that produces exactly that kind of sign. “We’re sorry! We’re cool Christians! We accept everyone! ” We, we, we, me, me, me, us, us, us. Constant virtue-signaling over actual analysis. I’m not Episcopalian but I spent time at a certain parish that has a trans”woman” priest. They keep it on the downlow and he’s not on the regular staff bc they know the Anglicans overseas would shit a brick, but they trot him out to show how ~welcoming~ they are.

  24. Just read about Butch Voices starting again this summer though I’ve read here its been taken over by trans people from both sides. If anyone knows the people who currently organize the event or attended they could probably give more recent updates if its still mostly trans and not women only. http://www.butchvoices.com/
    Also when suggesting earlier about small private groups and events for lesbians. I was speaking of groups meeting at cafes, restaurants, bars, parks in various cities etc. Those types of events can be private, invitation only, not publicized and are easier and cheaper to organize.

    1. Oh of course whatever works. Our group wants ABSOLUTE privately, that means we get to lock the front door, and NO MEN are admitted, and we do this at a few locations around town. There are private email lists now, and we carefully screen lesbians who want to join, and we make it clear that it is born womyn, and if they get that fine, if they whine they do not get invited. We’re pretty sick of it all. But there can be groups meeting in cafes in restaurants with private rooms, and keep it up and keep the rules clear, and you can build a very viable lesbian group. All you need is 12-30 very committed women, that’s it, and these lesbian groups have always been the best anyway imho

    2. Butch Voices hasn’t been taken over. It’s always been controlled by genderqueer sado-masochist porn-promoting Lesbian-hating women, from the first conference I went to. It became increasingly corporate.
      Checking their site, it seems to be basically the same women, who insult Butches with “masculine of center” and who prevent truly female-identified Butch workshops. The last time I tried going, the workshop for Butches lovers with Butches was called “Faggot Play.”
      I don’t think a lot of the trans cult go, but they have the power to censor us. Also, a lot of Fems posing/posturing as Butch caricatures.
      This is some of the history:
      It’s upsetting because it’s in Oakland again, and it would be nice to meet other Butches. The first one had a workshop for “female-identified Butches” where about a hundred real Butches came, many isolated and desperate for community. We tried to continue with a group in Oakland, but Sasha of Butch Voices co-opted that.

  25. Reblogged this on anywomans humanity and commented:
    Homophobia themed cotton ceiling March to demonize lesbians, straight/bi girls march in support of men wanting access to lesbians and forcing lesbians to consider straight sex.

  26. There was a guy in Chicago — his last name is Marin and he was a het white guy that wanted to do outreach to evangelical gays etc, he got a group that carried a sign that said “I’m sorry” to apologize for the right wing attacks on gay christians… so this may be more in that line with Episcopals— but I hate their “we” usage, and why aren’t white men groveling with their stupid SJW signs?

    1. It strikes me as straight people trying to gain attention for how wonderful they are. If they’re so sorry, they can stand on the sidelines and support actual gay people in the parade.

  27. Trans pride pepper spray fight — what a bunch of totally crazy men. So sick of all of this.

    1. The trans ended up beating them too. The difference between historic gay pride marches and these trans/queer fests is stark. We used to just laugh at the “protesters”, maybe try to get our picture taken in front of them. We didn’t attack them. We understood they were exercising the same right to free speech. We didn’t beat them up and spray them with mace. We might drown out their megaphones with drums or music, which was fair, because they were crashing OUR party. Mainly we ignored them.
      We didn’t do this:

      1. Yeah, they have been at every pride parade I’ve ever been to. At LA PRIDE we just all yelled really loudly as we rounded a main intersection where the right wing christian men were yelling too, but we easily drowned them. Or we made faces at them, but we just marched on. No violence, we far outnumbered them, they were bozos. Trans — MALE VIOLENCE is what is happening now. Anything trans is NOT safe for people, and Dyke Marches invaded by male to trans have been dangerous too. It’s good that there are all these films which document how violent and creepy these men really are.

  28. What the Pride month conversation sounds like:
    LGBT+ defender: Any identity or orientation is valid! BDSM and rape play should be celebrated! You do you!
    Lesbian: I’m attracted to female people.
    LGBT+ defender: Transphobic fetishist!
    I was so annoyed at lesbian erasure from Pride, I looked for information on the local dyke march, thinking I might go cheer the marchers on. It had already happened, but, worse, the website describes it as inclusive and says, explicitly, that it’s “for everyone”–just like feminism, right?
    This is how the fight for women’s rights has been repeatedly smothered since 19th century feminists stopped campaigning for female suffrage in order to make it easier to get the vote for freed male slaves. Men persuade women that fighting for women’s rights is selfish because we should really be fighting for everyone. They promise we’ll get our chance, but only after some group of men who are more oppressed/more deserving gets what they want first.
    At the moment, that group happens to be men who declare themselves women, and it’s lesbians who are getting the worst of it, but the rights of all women are at risk. A lot of liberal, het women don’t see this because they consider it normal to defer to the wishes of those who are either dominant or oppressed–and transwomen happen to check both boxes. I hope they wake the hell up before it’s too late.

    1. There are a lot of people that just don’t know.
      I didn’t find feminism until 6 or 7 years ago (for various reasons). I started out in libfem circles, like a lot of us do.
      Around 2 or 3 years ago, when this trans mess started, I laughed. I laughed the first time that I ever saw a dude actually, really demand to be called woman. It just seemed so insane. My attitude was “wear what you want, but you are still a male”, and after lots of kind and patient explaining by libfems, when I still found the whole thing funny, well. I learned what a terf was when I was called that.
      I already wasn’t all that popular because of my view of BDSM. It seemed like there was always some young woman or old white guy talking about how beating a woman during sex was feminist! And the submissive had all of the power! And it’s so edgy!
      And I was always “how is this edgy? Dudes have been getting erections from directing violence at us for centuries. And now we say it’s edgy??? The fuck?”
      Anyway, that’s how I came to radical feminism. I just didn’t know. I’m not a lesbian, I don’t know any lesbians in my real life(I don’t have a social group at all, I have one friend, that’s it). But I certainly will support them, now that I know.
      And I think that there’s been a big boom in this information getting out with the bathroom bills, and to a lesser extent, the title ix stuff. There’s a lot of people that were kind of smacked with dudes in our bathrooms/lockerrooms, etc. They had no idea.
      But now? We all know. And I will act accordingly for my sisters. ALL of them.

  29. THIS IS FUCKING DISGUSTING LMAO. I identified myself as a Ftm for the longest part (13-18 for me and I’m 18 now) and stayed silent as “trans ladies” silenced and oppressed other lesbians, all while knowing deep inside that I was a lesbian too, that even as a “trans man”, I couldn’t say I’m only into REAL WOMEN, because I was scared a trans laydeee would get angry at me and acuse me of “transmysogny” and get me out of every support group I was in and vilify me in front of my lgbt friends. But here I can say this, TRANS “WOMEN” ARE DISGUSTING AND I DON’T TRUST A SINGLE ONE. As someone who spends a lot of time around them, I can say that they are repulsive inside and out. I’ve NEVER met a single trans”woman” who pass, they are all so obviously male and ugly lmao, like I’m sorry bae but you’re not a “goddess”, you’re an ugly man with stringy hair and poorly applied makeup. MY FAVORITE is when they say shit like “but it’s okay if you don’t want to touch my lady dick, we can still have sex” like no???? I DON’T WANT a disgusting penis anywhere near my body, I can’t just “not see it” and ignore the fact that I’m in a bed with a fucking male. Miss me with that shit, you made me feel repulsed of my own “male identity” when you threatened my own and my girlfriend’s bodily and sexual autonomy by saying that “lesbians should shut up and worship dick if it belongs to a laydee”.

    1. That sounds horrible. Good for you for saying no to all those gross men. Keep it up! And being a lesbian is awesome! (Speaking as a longtime lesbian).

    2. Welcome… I am proud of you and you are super duper. Yes, big fat hairy smelly MEN with stringy hair wearing hideous blouses and skirts and flats and they TERRIFY me. I know unhinged psychotic men when I see them. I have years of experience spotting dangerous men. MTT are even MORE dangerous, malignant Narcissists all.

  30. Jews banned from Chicago Dyke March:
    “However, also asked to leave by Collective members of the Dyke march were three people carrying Jewish Pride flags (a rainbow flag with a Star of David in the center).
    According to one of those individuals—A Wider Bridge Midwest Manager Laurel Grauer—she and her friends were approached a number of times in the park because they were holding the flag.
    “It was a flag from my congregation which celebrates my queer, Jewish identity which I have done for over a decade marching in the Dyke March with the same flag,” she told Windy City Times.
    She added that she lost count of the number of people who harassed her.
    One Dyke March collective member asked by Windy City Times for a response, said the women were told to leave because the flags “made people feel unsafe,” that the march was “anti-Zionist” and “pro-Palestinian.”
    “They were telling me to leave because my flag was a trigger to people that they found offensive,” Grauer said. “Prior to this [march] I had never been harassed or asked to leave and I had always carried the flag with me.”
    Another of those individuals asked to leave was an Iranian Jew Eleanor Shoshany-Anderson.
    “I was here as a proud Jew in all of my identities,” Shoshany-Anderson asserted. “The Dyke March is supposed to be intersectional. I don’t know why my identity is excluded from that. I fell that, as a Jew, I am not welcome here.”
    As of time of midnight Saturday, Windy City Times received no official statement from Dyke March organizers. However, social media posts in support of their decision claimed that a rainbow flag with a Star of David is a form of pink washing (a theory postulated by a City University of New York professor which claims that Israeli support of LGBTQ communities is designed to detract attention from civil and human rights abuses of Palestinian people.)
    Supporters added that American flags were similarly not welcome as they too are considered signs of oppression. However, flags from other nations were present.”

      1. In reading this ….I am reminded of an old Twilight Zone script, called ‘He Lives’, which dealt with someone walking in the footsteps of the Nazis. And got help in the form of Hitler’s ghost. Well…guess who or what group is following in those same footsteps, with the public being gullible enough to gush and enable?
        This cannot be said enough times….drop the t. If not…the whitewashing will continue. Many, including those who are keeping distance from the walking disasters and those down the road, will be grateful, if this is done.

      2. @GM–I was thinking about where intellectuals would end up in your list (real ones, as opposed to claptrap-spouting pseudo-intellectuals), when it struck me that maybe the march harassed and banned openly Jewish women in part because of the intellectual contributions of Jewish feminists to second wave feminism. It’s almost as if they’re striking back at Andrea Dworkin, et al, by proxy.

      3. O&A: think it’s more proof this whole Queer/Trans identity idealogy movement is run by the prog left, who support Muslim/Palestine over Israeli/Jew.

      4. @OakandAsh There actually os a deep, anti-intellectual strain that is rampant among the brigade. As Gallus and others have pointed out….in many, detailed posts…discussions of science, law, where the illogic of the brigade can be countered with fact, are met with brigade bullying. Taunting, as well as yelling that any debate along those lines is phobic.
        If that is not bad enough, the fact that the brigade wants this to infect the schools (while many in same see nothing with destroying Title IX, as well as ignoring Brown v. Board by proxy), shows they want the younger generation to be anti-intellectual drones, primed for transing. With more BS on the horizon.
        Drop the t…..ASAP.

    1. So much for intersectionality then. I thought it was the TERFS who were Nazis, according to the trans crowd. Somebody’s confused–or disingenuous–since the Star of David was a symbol of the Jewish people long before it appeared on the Israeli flag.

  31. Hey everyone! Just thought you would be interested to know that the transjacked Chicago Dyke March (whose tweets are quoted above) threw out Jewish people from their march. People harassed Jewish marchers who were carrying a rainbow flag with the Star of David – a flag apparently created by a synagogue congregation – and then got them thrown out. Oh, and the Dyke March’s rally apparently was emceed by a male trans activist. This is how Q and T obliterate the L.
    Excerpts from a good article & link for the full article follow:
    “[A]lso asked to leave by Collective members of the Dyke march were three people carrying Jewish Pride flags (a rainbow flag with a Star of David in the center).
    According to one of those individuals—A Wider Bridge Midwest Manager Laurel Grauer—she and her friends were approached a number of times in the park because they were holding the flag.
    “It was a flag from my congregation which celebrates my queer, Jewish identity which I have done for over a decade marching in the Dyke March with the same flag,” she told Windy City Times.
    She added that she lost count of the number of people who harassed her.
    Another of those individuals asked to leave was an Iranian Jew Eleanor Shoshany-Anderson.
    “I was here as a proud Jew in all of my identities,” Shoshany-Anderson asserted. “The Dyke March is supposed to be intersectional. I don’t know why my identity is excluded from that. I fell that, as a Jew, I am not welcome here.”
    One Dyke Marcher, Ruthie Steiner, who witnessed the ejection, called the decision “horrific.”
    The rally emcee was Chicago activist, business owner, Brave Space Alliance founder and Trans Liberation Collective member LaSaia Wade who walked on stage with a flotilla of rose-petal bearers.
    “This is intersectionality,” Wade said to thunderous cheers from the audience. “This is what Pride is supposed to look like.”

    1. This is sick. This is a perfect example.of why I want nothing to do.with the GBT. I would rather organize with women, straight, bi, and lesbian, any day. My sexuality is better discussed, defined, explored, supported, understood, and celebrated in the company of women, rather than any man on earth. Especially with radfem women. I have zero need or benefit in allying with gays or bi men. I have zero interest in their sexuality, and they, as males, as my oppressors, cannot remotely fathom or represent mine. Never have, never will.
      We need to create our own female coalitions, Lesbian, Bi, and Straight Women’s RadFem Coalitions. (LBSRF!)
      Or just RF Coalitions, or RFCs, for short, and put on our own damn, women only events.
      I seriously hope women wake up about these “pride” events and start BUY-cotting them in droves, and hold completely alternate events, zero assimilation into them.
      Maybe I’ll host a radfems party in my town next year in lieu of these events.
      These really should be called LGBT “SHAME” Marches.

      1. fmnst – I agree 100% with your anger and disgust, but I don’t think you can blame G and B guys for any of this. This was a Dyke March. There were no non-trans G/B guys running it or attending it. This disgusting mess is entirely the result of the T and the Q, with the acquiescence and in some cases the active collaboration of Ls. Somehow, these women got it in their heads that the way to be virtuous is to destroy their identities as lesbians and turn their march over to men who pretend to be women. In my opinion, LGB is not the problem. T/Q is the source of the problem.

  32. LMAO!
    ““Dyke is a self-selected term,” said Vanessa Rochelle Lewis, who emceed the rally, “It’s not attached to anatomy. It’s not attached to who you love. No one is excluded if you identify as a dyke.”
    Lewis led the crowd in chanting, “Take up our space! Take up our space!”
    “We all deserve to be here,” she later told the crowd. “Why do you deserve to be here?”
    “Because I have a fat, nonbinary body, and I can run around in my underwear here,” one person shouted to loud cheers and applause.
    “What about you?” Lewis asked a young woman in rose-pattern leggings and a flower crown.
    “I’m here for all the bi dykes,” she said. “We’re here, we’re bi, and we’re still dykes.”

    1. This so plays into right wing hands. All this does is “prove” to right wingers that there is no such thing as homosexuality as it was a choice all along. In fact, “dyke” is a dress up game, like “princess” or “Harley rider” or “NRA gun toter” but only the guns are mentioned in the constitution.
      As a choice, there is no reason for legal protections.
      These aholes are dumb as fuck.

    2. ““Dyke is a self-selected term,” said Vanessa Rochelle Lewis, who emceed the rally, “It’s not attached to anatomy. It’s not attached to who you love. No one is excluded if you identify as a dyke.”
      — This is EXACTLY the way that trans activists “define” woman. It is no longer connected with any observable, measurable trait, feature or characteristic. It is simply a word that some people select. “Woman” is anyone who identifies as a woman. Now these fools are doing the same thing with “dyke.”
      Anyone with a functioning brain can see that adopting this kind of circular definition of “woman” or “dyke” renders those words meaningless. “Dyke” would mean anyone who identifies as a dyke. But “identifying as a dyke” would mean only that you identify as a person who identifies as a dyke. It’s an endless self-referential circle. They make these terms inclusive of everyone, in doing so, they deprive the words of meaning. I actually engaged a trans activist about this conundrum once. They usually don’t like to get into this, but I found one who was willing to argue it through. And at the end of the exchange, he admitted that “woman” was just an identifier with no inherent meaning. He compared it to a name. Some people call themselves Susan and some people call themselves woman.

    3. If one wants more of this level of ‘insanity via diversity’ ( patent not pending on the term), go to the PBS website, look up the latest version of ‘To The Contrary’ and look at the last 12 minutes or so. If this does not prove that modern feminism as such, is coddling the brigade, along with other scary shit, I do not know what else does.
      @GallusMag, in addition to the above…what was aired also brought home why when one has a status like yours truly could not get much in the way of assistance, during the problems of last year. Yep…I guess the little one and I were not acceptable enough to do so, seeing that the criminal and demeaning end are considered to be more worthy.

  33. As ex-Mormon lesbian-feminist Sonia Johnson wrote, “I have more in common with Phyllis Schlafly than with any man on earth.”
    I agree. As a woman, oppressed by men, same here.

  34. Best sign from the new march pics: “Non-Profits Destroy Trans Communities”

    1. I guess non-profits still have an annoying tendency to actually care about women sometimes. How dare they!? The for-profit sector, meanwhile, knows where the action is at and is eager to bow to the ladypeen in exchange for dollars. (Though yes I know a huge number of non-profits have sold out too).

  35. I would like to comment on the Dyke Marches. Actually, they aren’t Dyke Marches any more. I cringe when I say Dyke Marches now because I don’t know what the hell to call them. It’s more like whatever poly pansexual, nonbinary, and lesbians just have to suck it up.
    Males who call themselves “trans dykes” or “lesbians” are colonizing bastards. I’m not afraid to call them colonizing bastards. Bored white heterosexual males doing what they have always done. White males are the world’s expert on colonizing other cultures. They have only been doing it for countless centuries. What we see in these photos is an example of a more powerful group (white heterosexual males) co-opting lesbian culture. Since when have lesbians ever had as much power as white heterosexual males.
    A perfect text book case of colonization whereby a more powerful culture takes over a politically and economically less powerful cultural minority.
    As to the sign at the San Francisco Dyke March 2017 that says, “Dyke only space for all dykes”, if anyone can identify as a dyke (males, females, old, young, femme dykes, gender queer dykes, etc.) then the word “dyke” has no meaning whatsoever. Any gender queer heterosexual male poly pansexual whoever can call himself a “trans dyke”. Still has his dick, no problem, and let him in the “Dyke only space for all dykes”.
    The dude with the “Trans Dykes are good and pure” is creepy. They are basically colonizing lesbian phobic straight males doing what they have always done.
    This is from the SF Dyke March website, and this is what they say under “Dyke Identity”. This is “Dyke Identity”.
    “The San Francisco Dyke March is for dykes. Dykes gather at the Dyke March to celebrate our love and passion for women and for ALL dykes. We celebrate our queerness in all its manifestations. We understand dyke identity to include those of us who are questioning and challenging gender constructs and the social definitions of women: transdyke, MTF, transfeminine, transmasculine, genderqueer, and gender fluid dykes.”
    MTF (males) are not dykes, and should not be included under dyke identity. They can dress however they please, but they are not dykes. Transwomen have their Transgender Day of Remembrance that women leave alone out of respect. Trans get their special events, and they have to take over every single women’s event. “Transdyke” is a hideous word that is nothing more than males colonizing and co-opting lesbian identity and culture. What the hell is “transfeminine” as it relates to dykes?
    We continue to hold the Dyke March as dyke-only space. We invite our male allies to enjoy our Dolores Park rally with us, and to please support us from the sidelines during our march.
    They wanted their male allies to join them at Dolores Park. Let’s have enough males as possible at the Dyke March because lesbians having one day a year without penis around is just too much for them to handle. The mean lesbians might hurt the feelings of their male allies, or the creepy “trans dykes are good and pure” dudes. The true male allies leave lesbians alone.
    These are their corporate sponsors. The trans run NCLR always puts trans first in everything it does. Please note that not one of these corporate sponsors or organizations like the NCLR said one word about the cold blooded slaughter of a lesbian family just last November in Oakland. Lesbians are only useful to these people as long as they follow the trans/queer/poly/transdyke, nonbinary, otherkin, pansexual, age play, BDSM, kink, pony play, pro porn, whatever agenda. Otherwise, dead lesbian and female bodies aren’t worth mentioning.
    One of the SF Dyke March’s raffle donors is a creepy as hell BDSM company that sells all kinds of kinky ass shit called Mr. S. Leather. People would be surprised at how much porn, kink, sex trafficking, and prostitution exists in the bay area. It’s big business. Hella big business. What has all this done for women and lesbians.
    I’m also sick and tired of seeing that pink and blue trans flag everywhere. Why does transgender get its own flag? Gay men and lesbians don’t have their own flag. We were stupid enough to include the “T” in our beloved rainbow flag, and now they have colonized and co-opted the living hell out of us. Males with age play and pony play fetishes have conned us all. Lesbians have a dick now, and gay men have a vagina. I don’t think so. Screw them all.
    This is nothing more than post modern neoliberal mind fu** of lesbians and women and textbook male colonization. Colonizing bastards and their eager to please get on their knees for corporate money handmaidens.
    They have to take over one day a year that was meant for lesbians.

    1. “Trans dykes are good and pure”
      What does that even mean?
      Does that makes sense to anyone? Good and pure sounds like a advert for soap.

      1. They’re saying that heterosexual men in dresses are incapable of causing harm. It’s the same male supremacist shit (women aren’t allowed to distrust men) dressed up in “liberal” packaging.
        It’s notable that genuinely oppressed groups rarely try to claim they’re perfect. Heterosexual MTTs don’t want to be treated as people; they want to be treated as special, perfect, wonderful men, which necessarily entails not holding them accountable for their predatory and violent behavior.

      2. “Heterosexual MTTs don’t want to be treated as people; they want to be treated as special, perfect, wonderful men, which necessarily entails not holding them accountable for their predatory and violent behavior.”
        Sounds like some sort of narcissistic personality disorder!

  36. Helen Lewis reposted an image of that charmer Mya Byrne wearing a t-shirt with a large fake bloodstain and the slogan “I PUNCH TERFS,” which he tagged #pride and #yesallterfs. He accessorized it with a red bandana and a sadistic smirk
    Not surprisingly, there are a lot of tweets on the thread, including from some claiming that a journalist publicizing a “private” social media post was encouraging violence against transwomen. That comment reminds me of the sort of people who’d tell an abuse victim she shouldn’t report her partner’s threats against her because he might suffer the consequences.
    (For some strange reason, I had no trouble accessing the allegedly private original image under the #yesallterfs tag, even though I’m not even on Twitter. These people really need to get their hands on a dictionary. I suggest they start by looking up “private” and then move on to “male,” female,” “violence,” and “reality.”)
    Maybe we need a t-shirt that says “TERFS FIGHT BACK”–with a silhouette of a well-armed Amazon?

    1. But the press doesn’t ask a single fucking question about why a bunch of men have hijacked an organization that doesn’t represent a single fucking lesbian and calls themselves the anti-lesbian slur “Dyke”, which heterosexual or bisexual OR ANY TYPE OF MEN INCLUDING MEN WHO IDENTIFY AS TRANSWOMEN do NOT HAVE THE RIGHT to “reclaim” or USE IN ANY WAY. The Chicago Dyke March is a SPECIFICALLY ANTILESBIKN ORGANIZATION but not a SINGLE MEMBER OF THE PRESS EVEN RAISES THAT POINT.

      1. Your reply to my comment dovetails with something that’s been nagging at me. I’d started to wonder if the Star of David business wasn’t partly anti-semitism and partly a pretext to get rid of lesbians–you know, ask some to leave for being supposed anti-Palestinian Zionists, others for “transphobia”, and eventually come up with enough different reasons to justify banning most actual lesbians “for the good of the group” without making the general public suspicious.
        Even as an outsider to the LGBT community, just going by their rhetoric, it seemed the march must have been taken over by a group of men and bisexual women. It has also become clear to me that women’s issue don’t really matter to most reporters. Sure, if a young, beautiful teenager is kidnapped, we’ll hear wall-to-wall coverage, but the day-to-day issues that affect the unglamorous rest of us–whether lesbians, mothers, DV victims, elderly women, etc.–are of no interest to the press.

      2. I have been wondering how they got control over Windy City Times. Even comments were disabled for for WCT articles and videos on this. I guess it’s just for GBT now. Deeply troubling.

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